Diladi, basei twn oswn leei o sugkekrimenos kardinalios, mallon den exei thesi ena poli megalos meros twn Ellinorthodokswn ekproswpwn tou Pantodunamou ston Paradeiso..
Alitheia poia einai oi gnwmoi tou gia tous paidofilous?Exoun thesi i oxi stin epomeni zwi?Oxi tipota allo apla gia na kseroume otan fugoume apo to mataio touto kosmo ean ektos apo Orthodokso den sunantisoume oute Katholiko papa...
File me exeis mpleksei ligaki.Den kserw ean eisai 100%ironikos i ta ennoeis auta pou les.
Pantws opws kai na exei kamia EE den ksipnise mia mera kai eipe "autoi oi Ellinares mou exoun mpei sto mati.As tous kanw mauri propaganda".Sto katw katw i EE parathetei alithei stoixeia stis ereunes tis oxi moufes opws emeis.Alla autoi einai Eurwpaioi .Den kseroun...
Dustuxws contra se oti pisteuoume DEN EIMASTE TO KENTRO TOU KOSMOU.Edw stin Ollandia mallon kati san tous Marokinous kai tou Tourkous metanastes mas antimetwpizoun para san isotimo melos tis idias oikogeneias.Kai dustuxws den mporw na min tous dikaiologisw oso nomizoume oti eimaste oi koutoponiroi tou kosmou toutou.
Oso den to xwneuoume kai den koitame tin kampoura mas tha sunexisoume na mizeriazoume.
I proodos erxetai mono an koitakseis ta lathi sou katamata.
Profanws kai tha prepei na na afaireitai to diplwma apo opoion dimiourgei sunexws troxaia.
Bebaiws kai tha prepei na eimaste prosektikoi.
Alla tha prepei na ginei kati EPITELOUS me ton tropo eksetasis gi na paroume to diplwma.Den anafereomai fusika mono stis pithanes beltiwseis pou prepei na ginei katheauto ston tropo pou eksetazetai o ipopsifios odigos.
Anaferomai sto g...eno sistima pou epikratei stis megales poleis pou 9 stis 10 periptwseis o daksalos sto teleutaio mathima prin pas tha sou kanei olo noima tin eksis erwtisi:"Pws tha to paroume to diplwma...?"Koinws tha fereis mazi to "mpitononi me to ladaki giati o eksetastis einai "duskolos"?Kai bebaiws gia osous kseroun peripou ta misa apo ta fragka pu tha stakseis gia na peraseis pane sto lamogio twn daskalo.
Kata ti gnwmi prepei kai autoi kapoia stigmi na timwrithoun kapoia stigmi gia tin aneuthinotita tous.Den ginetai kath ligo kai ligaki na exoume ena filo, gnwsto, melos tis oikogeneias mas pou na "svinei "stin asfalto epeidi den emathe autos i to atomo me to opoio trakare na odigoun ipeuthina...
Proswpika noiwthw kapoies fores tipseis me to gegonos ooti prin 5-6 xronia enedwsa sti lamogia tou daksalou mou.
Alitheia autoi den noiwthoun pote tipseis kathe fora pou akoun stis eidiseis to onoma kapoiou prwin mathiti tous?Sunenoxoi se autoi tin katastasi eimaste oloi mas kai prepei na to sineiditopoiisoume.
Oti apo oso gnwrizoume toulaxiston kai i Ispania, kai i Portogalia kai Italia parousiazoun ta stoixeia tous opws akribws einai. Den koitane pws tha ta mageirepsoun gia na bgoun ladi. Enw emeis?Kai na pw oti to kanoume gia prwti fora?
Koinws i diafora me emas einai oti eimaste
A F E R E G G U O I
kai toulaxiston egw, stin proswpiki mou zwi, ston aferegguo pou prospathei na me koroidepsei den mporw na tou deiksw empistosuni ,pws na to kanoume?ta lefta mou den mporw na ta dwsw gia na ta ependusei se kati ofelimo
Irthe mallon i wra na plirwsoume oloi omadika tin asudosia mas kai ton wxaderfismo mas otan afiname ta kathe logois lamogia (pou na min ksexname oti apo EMAS exoun proelthei,EMEIS tous ekleksame kai EMEIS tous legame bravo me ti mi antidrasi mas stis klepsies tous)na alonizoun anenoxlita.
To paramuthaki me ton ELLINARA pou kai kala kserei na elisetai kai na koroideuei tous upoloipous Eurwpaious ftanei sto telos tou.Alla "The game is over".Ta thelame kai ta pathame.
kai opws leei ena asma
"Ntropi se olous mas, ma pio poli se ekeinous...."
Diavazontas ta legomena tou Almounia kai to perifimo "the game is over" anaferomenos sta psemata ta opoia tou aradiazame gia tin oikonomia,tha ithela na iksera an eimai o monos Ellinas pou den skeftetai mono tis sunepeies apo tin epitirisi, alla noiwthei ntropi gia auti tin katastasi.
Me PSEMATA mpikame stin ONE, me PSEMATA eixame elleima kapou sto 6% pou en mia nukti egine 12%,me PSEMATA to 2006 ,an den kanw lathos, giname kata 25% "plousioteroi" sta matia twn Eurwpaiwn me tis alximeies tou Alogoskoufi pou gia na afksisei to AEP metrouse kai to xrima apo narkwtika , porneia ktl.PSEMATA , PSEMATA ,PSEMATA
Mipws pera apo tin wra tis epitirisis irthe kai i wra na analogistoume kai tis dikes mas euthines ws politwn gia auti tin katastasi?
Mipws i simerini katastasi einai kata bathos apotelesma tis dikias mas kotnoftalmis nootropias, pou koitaei kuriws pws tha tin bgalei pera sto ameso xroniko daistima kai den pronoei gia to mellon, akoma kai otan oi oikonomikes sunthikes einai kaluteres apo tis simerines?
Kai kuriws, mipws telika irthe i wra na plirwsoume gia tin nootropia mas na thewroume magka auton pou klebei to dimosio xrima, apo ton megalutero epixeirimatia mexri ton mikrotero el.epaggelmatia pou krubei pramata apo tin forologiki tou dilwsi?
Alitheia poses fores exoume anaferthei stis klepsies tou kathe megaloergolabou me tropo pou apo ti mia fainetai kai kala epikritikos alla pou emesws plin safws ton epikrotoume?
An kai nomizw oti ksefeugoume apo to topic tis suzitisis, diakrinw oti exeis epikritiki apopsi gia to sustima me tin pitsirikaria sto AH. Den mporeis na sugkrineis ese kamia periptwsi ena sustima ergasias se mia xwra me makaran to xamilotero deikti anergias (kapou 3-4% den einai?)stin eurwpi me auto tis Elladas.
Kat arxas epeidi kai oi 2 mas menoume Ollandia( egw Utrecht) gnwrizoume oti nai pragmati i pitsirikaria einai poli ftino ergatiko dunamiko, pou omws DEn nomizw na sterei kai polles theseis ergasias apo aneidikeutous.Tha ksereis fantazomai oti ta pio polla apo uta ta paidia pou douleuoun oxi mono ston AH alla kai se diafores paromoies douleies tou podariou den proslamvanontai apeutheias apo to katastima alla mesw grafeio euresews ergasias.Epipleon edw na poume oti analoga me tin ilikia tous allazei toso o arithmos twn wrwn to mina oso kai ta xrimata pou pairnoun ana wra.Ksekinane me poli liga xrimata kapou 5 euros tin wra(i kapou toso telos pantwn) se ilikia kapou sta 15 alla douleuoun elaxistes wres to mina.Stin poreia auto allazei..Gia paradeigma mia fili pou douleuei sto en logw super market 2 fores apo 3-4 wres tin ebdomada pairnei kathara kapou konta sta 15 euros tin wra.O skopos pou exei thespistei kati tetoio se mikres ilikies einai mallon gia na mathoun apo mikroi na bgazoun to xartziliki tous kai oxigia na pernoun anagkastika ti douleia kapoiou allou.
Fusika to sugkekrimeno sustima poli duskola tha mporouse na efarmostei stin parousa fasi stin Ellada.Den einai dunaton na ginei kati tetoio se mia xwra stin opoia i anergeia kalpazei, pou tokratos adunatei na sevastei tous stoixeiwdeis kanones sumperiforas pros tous ergazomenous(blepe STAGE) kai pou to KURIOTERO oi polites (en prokeimenw auti pou exoun mia epixeirisi) den exoun tin nootropia na sevastoun ton pitsirika pou thelei na bgalei to xartziliki tou douleuontas 2-3 wres tin ebdomada alla tha koitaksoun na tn ksezoumisoun epeidi einai i pio ftini lusi.
Sorry pou ksefuga apo ti suzitisi alla ithela na dwsw mia geusi gia ta ergasiaka edw stin Ollandia
Το αν οι διαδηλωτές ήταν αριστερού ή δεξιού κόμματος δεν το γνωρίζω.Αυτό που ξέρω όμως είναι ότι οι αντιδράσεις τους είναι απόλυτα δικαιολογημένες.
Εκεί που πήγαν να νοιώσουν ανακούφιση που επιτέλους ξεφορτώθηκαν τον πιο επικίνδυνο πρωθυπουργό που είχε ποτε η χώρα (τον τελευταίο καιρό κυκλοφορούσε η φήμη ότι τα Σαββατοκύριακα μπαινόβγαινε στα ψυχιατρεία),τους βάζουν τον εν λόγω κύριο ως υπηρεσιακό πρωθυπουργό.
Ο O Bajnai ευθύνεται για την παταγώδη αποτυχία που είχε ένα μεγαλόπνοο γεωργικό επενδυτικό πρόγραμμα πάνω στο οποίο στηρίχθηκαν χιλιάδες οικογενειες οι οποίες έμειναν ξεκρέμαστες,οδηγωντας μάλιστα κάποιους και στην αυτοκτονία!Μνημειώδης είναι η φράση που είχε ξεστομίσει με απλότητα ότι "δεν ξέραμε πως να κάνουμε τις επενδύσεις"!!
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Diladi, basei twn oswn leei o sugkekrimenos kardinalios, mallon den exei thesi ena poli megalos meros twn Ellinorthodokswn ekproswpwn tou Pantodunamou ston Paradeiso..
Alitheia poia einai oi gnwmoi tou gia tous paidofilous?Exoun thesi i oxi stin epomeni zwi?Oxi tipota allo apla gia na kseroume otan fugoume apo to mataio touto kosmo ean ektos apo Orthodokso den sunantisoume oute Katholiko papa...
@ antilogos
File me exeis mpleksei ligaki.Den kserw ean eisai 100%ironikos i ta ennoeis auta pou les.
Pantws opws kai na exei kamia EE den ksipnise mia mera kai eipe "autoi oi Ellinares mou exoun mpei sto mati.As tous kanw mauri propaganda".Sto katw katw i EE parathetei alithei stoixeia stis ereunes tis oxi moufes opws emeis.Alla autoi einai Eurwpaioi .Den kseroun...
Dustuxws contra se oti pisteuoume DEN EIMASTE TO KENTRO TOU KOSMOU.Edw stin Ollandia mallon kati san tous Marokinous kai tou Tourkous metanastes mas antimetwpizoun para san isotimo melos tis idias oikogeneias.Kai dustuxws den mporw na min tous dikaiologisw oso nomizoume oti eimaste oi koutoponiroi tou kosmou toutou.
Oso den to xwneuoume kai den koitame tin kampoura mas tha sunexisoume na mizeriazoume.
I proodos erxetai mono an koitakseis ta lathi sou katamata.
An thes pragmatika na beltiwtheis vevaiws...
Mipws ksexname kai kati akoma?
Profanws kai tha prepei na na afaireitai to diplwma apo opoion dimiourgei sunexws troxaia.
Bebaiws kai tha prepei na eimaste prosektikoi.
Alla tha prepei na ginei kati EPITELOUS me ton tropo eksetasis gi na paroume to diplwma.Den anafereomai fusika mono stis pithanes beltiwseis pou prepei na ginei katheauto ston tropo pou eksetazetai o ipopsifios odigos.
Anaferomai sto g...eno sistima pou epikratei stis megales poleis pou 9 stis 10 periptwseis o daksalos sto teleutaio mathima prin pas tha sou kanei olo noima tin eksis erwtisi:"Pws tha to paroume to diplwma...?"Koinws tha fereis mazi to "mpitononi me to ladaki giati o eksetastis einai "duskolos"?Kai bebaiws gia osous kseroun peripou ta misa apo ta fragka pu tha stakseis gia na peraseis pane sto lamogio twn daskalo.
Kata ti gnwmi prepei kai autoi kapoia stigmi na timwrithoun kapoia stigmi gia tin aneuthinotita tous.Den ginetai kath ligo kai ligaki na exoume ena filo, gnwsto, melos tis oikogeneias mas pou na "svinei "stin asfalto epeidi den emathe autos i to atomo me to opoio trakare na odigoun ipeuthina...
Proswpika noiwthw kapoies fores tipseis me to gegonos ooti prin 5-6 xronia enedwsa sti lamogia tou daksalou mou.
Alitheia autoi den noiwthoun pote tipseis kathe fora pou akoun stis eidiseis to onoma kapoiou prwin mathiti tous?Sunenoxoi se autoi tin katastasi eimaste oloi mas kai prepei na to sineiditopoiisoume.
Auta ta oliga
Enas einai o pragmatika apodotikos foros pou 8a gemisei ta kratika tamia
O foros tis blakeias mas..
Eksasfalismeno apotelesma....
@ xwmateros
Ksereis pia einai diafora file mou?
Oti apo oso gnwrizoume toulaxiston kai i Ispania, kai i Portogalia kai Italia parousiazoun ta stoixeia tous opws akribws einai. Den koitane pws tha ta mageirepsoun gia na bgoun ladi. Enw emeis?Kai na pw oti to kanoume gia prwti fora?
Koinws i diafora me emas einai oti eimaste
A F E R E G G U O I
kai toulaxiston egw, stin proswpiki mou zwi, ston aferegguo pou prospathei na me koroidepsei den mporw na tou deiksw empistosuni ,pws na to kanoume?ta lefta mou den mporw na ta dwsw gia na ta ependusei se kati ofelimo
Kai twra?
Ti ginetai apo dw kai mpros?
Irthe mallon i wra na plirwsoume oloi omadika tin asudosia mas kai ton wxaderfismo mas otan afiname ta kathe logois lamogia (pou na min ksexname oti apo EMAS exoun proelthei,EMEIS tous ekleksame kai EMEIS tous legame bravo me ti mi antidrasi mas stis klepsies tous)na alonizoun anenoxlita.
To paramuthaki me ton ELLINARA pou kai kala kserei na elisetai kai na koroideuei tous upoloipous Eurwpaious ftanei sto telos tou.Alla "The game is over".Ta thelame kai ta pathame.
kai opws leei ena asma
"Ntropi se olous mas, ma pio poli se ekeinous...."
Kalispera paidia apo Ollandia,
tha ithela na kanw mua erwtisi.
Diavazontas ta legomena tou Almounia kai to perifimo "the game is over" anaferomenos sta psemata ta opoia tou aradiazame gia tin oikonomia,tha ithela na iksera an eimai o monos Ellinas pou den skeftetai mono tis sunepeies apo tin epitirisi, alla noiwthei ntropi gia auti tin katastasi.
Me PSEMATA mpikame stin ONE, me PSEMATA eixame elleima kapou sto 6% pou en mia nukti egine 12%,me PSEMATA to 2006 ,an den kanw lathos, giname kata 25% "plousioteroi" sta matia twn Eurwpaiwn me tis alximeies tou Alogoskoufi pou gia na afksisei to AEP metrouse kai to xrima apo narkwtika , porneia ktl.PSEMATA , PSEMATA ,PSEMATA
Mipws pera apo tin wra tis epitirisis irthe kai i wra na analogistoume kai tis dikes mas euthines ws politwn gia auti tin katastasi?
Mipws i simerini katastasi einai kata bathos apotelesma tis dikias mas kotnoftalmis nootropias, pou koitaei kuriws pws tha tin bgalei pera sto ameso xroniko daistima kai den pronoei gia to mellon, akoma kai otan oi oikonomikes sunthikes einai kaluteres apo tis simerines?
Kai kuriws, mipws telika irthe i wra na plirwsoume gia tin nootropia mas na thewroume magka auton pou klebei to dimosio xrima, apo ton megalutero epixeirimatia mexri ton mikrotero el.epaggelmatia pou krubei pramata apo tin forologiki tou dilwsi?
Alitheia poses fores exoume anaferthei stis klepsies tou kathe megaloergolabou me tropo pou apo ti mia fainetai kai kala epikritikos alla pou emesws plin safws ton epikrotoume?
Dustuxws gia emas pou eimaste apo to Elladistan
OPWS STRWNEIS KOIMASAI
File Ksipolite Prigips
An kai nomizw oti ksefeugoume apo to topic tis suzitisis, diakrinw oti exeis epikritiki apopsi gia to sustima me tin pitsirikaria sto AH. Den mporeis na sugkrineis ese kamia periptwsi ena sustima ergasias se mia xwra me makaran to xamilotero deikti anergias (kapou 3-4% den einai?)stin eurwpi me auto tis Elladas.
Kat arxas epeidi kai oi 2 mas menoume Ollandia( egw Utrecht) gnwrizoume oti nai pragmati i pitsirikaria einai poli ftino ergatiko dunamiko, pou omws DEn nomizw na sterei kai polles theseis ergasias apo aneidikeutous.Tha ksereis fantazomai oti ta pio polla apo uta ta paidia pou douleuoun oxi mono ston AH alla kai se diafores paromoies douleies tou podariou den proslamvanontai apeutheias apo to katastima alla mesw grafeio euresews ergasias.Epipleon edw na poume oti analoga me tin ilikia tous allazei toso o arithmos twn wrwn to mina oso kai ta xrimata pou pairnoun ana wra.Ksekinane me poli liga xrimata kapou 5 euros tin wra(i kapou toso telos pantwn) se ilikia kapou sta 15 alla douleuoun elaxistes wres to mina.Stin poreia auto allazei..Gia paradeigma mia fili pou douleuei sto en logw super market 2 fores apo 3-4 wres tin ebdomada pairnei kathara kapou konta sta 15 euros tin wra.O skopos pou exei thespistei kati tetoio se mikres ilikies einai mallon gia na mathoun apo mikroi na bgazoun to xartziliki tous kai oxigia na pernoun anagkastika ti douleia kapoiou allou.
Fusika to sugkekrimeno sustima poli duskola tha mporouse na efarmostei stin parousa fasi stin Ellada.Den einai dunaton na ginei kati tetoio se mia xwra stin opoia i anergeia kalpazei, pou tokratos adunatei na sevastei tous stoixeiwdeis kanones sumperiforas pros tous ergazomenous(blepe STAGE) kai pou to KURIOTERO oi polites (en prokeimenw auti pou exoun mia epixeirisi) den exoun tin nootropia na sevastoun ton pitsirika pou thelei na bgalei to xartziliki tou douleuontas 2-3 wres tin ebdomada alla tha koitaksoun na tn ksezoumisoun epeidi einai i pio ftini lusi.
Sorry pou ksefuga apo ti suzitisi alla ithela na dwsw mia geusi gia ta ergasiaka edw stin Ollandia
Το αν οι διαδηλωτές ήταν αριστερού ή δεξιού κόμματος δεν το γνωρίζω.Αυτό που ξέρω όμως είναι ότι οι αντιδράσεις τους είναι απόλυτα δικαιολογημένες.
Εκεί που πήγαν να νοιώσουν ανακούφιση που επιτέλους ξεφορτώθηκαν τον πιο επικίνδυνο πρωθυπουργό που είχε ποτε η χώρα (τον τελευταίο καιρό κυκλοφορούσε η φήμη ότι τα Σαββατοκύριακα μπαινόβγαινε στα ψυχιατρεία),τους βάζουν τον εν λόγω κύριο ως υπηρεσιακό πρωθυπουργό.
Ο O Bajnai ευθύνεται για την παταγώδη αποτυχία που είχε ένα μεγαλόπνοο γεωργικό επενδυτικό πρόγραμμα πάνω στο οποίο στηρίχθηκαν χιλιάδες οικογενειες οι οποίες έμειναν ξεκρέμαστες,οδηγωντας μάλιστα κάποιους και στην αυτοκτονία!Μνημειώδης είναι η φράση που είχε ξεστομίσει με απλότητα ότι "δεν ξέραμε πως να κάνουμε τις επενδύσεις"!!